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Old Jan 05, 2009, 04:04 AM // 04:04   #21
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I heard life stealing goes through him.

A friend of mine had the same problem you had. I helped him through it, we both 3 touchers, 1 necro life stealer/ss, 2 monk heroes, me as a dslash spammer, he was a mesmer.

We rolled through him at 45% dp or something....
Yeah if you go with a pug/live human team the Cyrin isn't difficult, since most of them already knows what will happen and the like.
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Old Jan 05, 2009, 07:39 AM // 07:39   #22
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if you don't like to use touch rangers as i didn't :P, then i would suggest bringing a ranger with apply poison and interrupts, apply poison negates his usual regen so he doesn't heal up while you are carrying barrels.

Get also get three monks as others said. Should be dead in about 5 minutes
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Old Jan 06, 2009, 02:46 AM // 02:46   #23
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ZOMG SOMETHING IN PVE IS DIFFICULT AND MADE ME FAIL AND DO IT MULTIPLE TIMES ZOMG!!!!

Good god, enough. People keep saying how easy PvE is, and yet we get people starting threads about how they're unable to kill the second to last boss in the game with a full AI team and they don't even know how to make him vulnerable to damage!
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Old Jan 06, 2009, 03:50 AM // 03:50   #24
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Well I went back and did the HotS quest in a PUG and what a difference!! It wasn't such a grind getting there and Cyndr went down in less than a minute!!!

Unbelievable....

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(now I feel like my complaints were premature )
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Old Jan 06, 2009, 08:19 AM // 08:19   #25
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Not sure how effective this is, but whenever i do this H/Hway, I stand near Blackpowder as soon as you get out into the opening, and Cyndr will spawn near blackpowder, after that click blackpowder, drop keg, click black, drop keg, click black, drop keg. i had problem with it too at frist, when i figure out how to, i get 15 dp when Cyndr is kill, Mhenlo didn't die suprisingly.

PS: call your target even if its only one, since the recent "leash put on h/h" they've become quite lazy, sometime they dance in the middle of a battle... so call your target! *need new keybaord* lol

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Old Jan 06, 2009, 11:00 PM // 23:00   #26
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Good god, enough. People keep saying how easy PvE is, and yet we get people starting threads about how they're unable to kill the second to last boss in the game with a full AI team and they don't even know how to make him vulnerable to damage!
Third to last. I think the Disc of Chaos counts, even though it's generally not quite as deadly as Cyndr.
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Old Jan 07, 2009, 04:33 PM // 16:33   #27
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Yeah that mission really frustrated me at first with my normal Sabway group of heroes. You really want to prepare. I equipped all my necro heroes and myself as a necro secondary with blood magic and life stealing skills. Cyndr went down with no problem and no keg running.
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Old Jan 07, 2009, 05:03 PM // 17:03   #28
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I heard flagging is pro.

NO Srsly. It is.

5 of the 6 times I've done this in HM, Cyndr popped right next to Blackpowder. Thats like insta-GG right there. If not, you run in the room, flag everything way way spaced out, then just drop the bombs, and just kill him. Shouldn't take more than a minute or two, even if you party has wicked baed dps.

And if you need more help than that, I'm ASSUMING you are taking a prot monk/henchie. Prot spirit versus Cyndr is also win. Spread out, prot monk does there job, and he's then useless.
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Old Jan 07, 2009, 07:49 PM // 19:49   #29
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Welp, thank you for your great advise but I think everyone missed my point. I don't mind the difficulty of Cyndr, it's that PLUS everything else.

Take Abaddon for example. That mission was really hard for me but I didn't mind it because the boss was all that there was to that mission. You pop in, run a short distance and get to business. I could have failed that mission 20 times and I would have kept trying because "spamming" it was so easy. Just pop in and get to business... With HotS you have to 'waste' 20 min. just to try again, wtf?!

All this advise is great because it gives me a reason to want to try and beat Cyndr. But the work and time it takes to get there..... It's the whole quest that I was complaining about, not just the boss. Cyndr I can deal with, that's just a matter of time. But the time........ugh *sigh*

Anyway, thank you all for your support. I'm going to party up from here on. Maybe after some success with live characters I can go back and try again with H/H.

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Well, one thing that might help is that you can join another group doing destruction depths first. Technically that quest comes after HoS so you will have to do it again for the story line, but, it takes you to the central transfer chamber and from there you can go directly to King Jalis by going through the portal there. That way you can retry a lot faster without having to spend 20 mins to get to the right portal since you are almost there then.
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Old Jan 07, 2009, 10:39 PM // 22:39   #30
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Meh the last time I did it I found it to be particularly easy. Used all H/H and an essence but I don't see the essence making that much of a difference. Only had to weaken his carapace with the 3 explosions once.
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Old Jan 08, 2009, 01:25 AM // 01:25   #31
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Well, one thing that might help is that you can join another group doing destruction depths first. Technically that quest comes after HoS so you will have to do it again for the story line, but, it takes you to the central transfer chamber and from there you can go directly to King Jalis by going through the portal there. That way you can retry a lot faster without having to spend 20 mins to get to the right portal since you are almost there then.
I suspect the 20 minutes includes time spent within the dungeon as well as getting TOO the dungeon.
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Old Jan 08, 2009, 02:04 AM // 02:04   #32
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Worst case scenario, bomb Cyndr until he pops up next to Blackpowder, then hide in the tunnel (yay for obstruction working WITH us for once) and attack him with lifestealing/have a ranger with [Apply Poison] chip away at him.

I've done it at 60% DP, it does work.

I always found the Great Destroyer much more irritating (mostly because there's no way to fight him that doesn't involve being constantly on fire)
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Old Jan 08, 2009, 01:33 PM // 13:33   #33
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But the work and time it takes to get there.....
Thats the problem with some dungeons, they are very time consuming and not everyone has the kinda time to play that is required. Always best to do with guildies cause without chances are someone will have to go walk the dog or do the dishes lol and leave you 1 man down, then someone else gets bored, or someone quits cos you die.

This very reason is why all I need is Rragar's dungeon for legendary master of the north but the time it takes to get there and do the dungeon makes watching paint drying more fun, so it's bottom of my to do list
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Old Jan 09, 2009, 04:15 AM // 04:15   #34
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Aye. I really wish PUGgees would, you know, actually set a reasonable time budget before starting on a mission. Part of the reason I don't PUG that much these days (the other parts being the hassle of getting a group, and that if there's a decent chance I'll be disrupted myself, I don't want to disrupt other people in the process).

The worst case I've had was the person who disappeared for about forty minutes... while holding the urn at Cathedral du Heltzer.
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